The pair has no relevance and it just a means of demonstrating the approach. Some pairs act in ways where they wont provide the same degree of comfort to the trader in how to look and feel. It may sound odd at first, but each pair has a personality in how they behave. A casual glance will show pairs outside of the majors to have a spiky nature or when their price moves, it moves in large swings.
Monthly chart where I start my analysis each month with a look at last months candle close. And you should only ever trade on a candle close and not when it is forming. Otherwise you risk price looking much different to what you think it will be. So trade what you see as fact i.e a closed candle and not trade what you think.
This is the blank chart and from here you can apply what you feel is necessary to help you paint a picture of what has happened over time. My way is not the right way or only way, just one approach that works for me. Add, remove and modify as you see fit because we all think differently, unless you listen to the media and become one of the herd.
I have drawn in a tick mark on top which shows the climatic price action of the market top. On the bottom of the chart is the lowest price within the charts time. The middle line is a support and resistance line, but in reality it is an area as all price can be. Dont look for price to react to the pixel, it is akin chasing rainbows.
So far we know price in the near term has fallen from the high, bounced off the low, hit resistance and bounced back down from the resistance line/area. We therefore deduce that price is still bearish and we want to be on the side of the market favored by the majority.
If we shorted we need to know where is a good place to take profit. We also need to know where is a good place for a stop and of course, where to enter.
Weekly chart.
A little closer into the price action and we now see more detail. It is still too high a time frame for most to trade and we pull what information we can from the chart. We can see price hitting the resistance area and the strong move away. This clearly shows a lot of sellers and as price moves down the pull backs are relatively mild which shows how strong the selling is and the desire to reach a target. A target is a figure of speech and there is no one target, but a price area.
The white line is near term support and resistance and price slowed as it approached this. The warning sign was the large bullish print a little above the white line. The price was reacting to an area of consolidation on the left of the line.
Ignore the approx 100 points label. It should read 1000 points. If you were pro money, would taking price up to where it has just been make more sense and be easier profit than it would to take it lower where price has not been for a long time and where historic orders are likely lower in value?
The daily bread and butter chart. This is the most viewed time frame for most instruments traded. I zoomed out a little to show more of the price move.
The white S/R line is still here for reference so that we know where we are in the bigger picture. Note price falling from the high and there is one place where price accelerated rapidly. Shortly after this price spiked into that area. This was a means of getting a better price for pro money to continue the move down and was aided by the fact that most traders would have been stopped out, others gone long and subsequently stopped out, which all feed pro money easy profit. If you wanted to hold through that spike you would need deep pockets.
Lastly we see price poke below the S/R line and will have been seen as continuation. But taking that as the market was about to close and close into the end of the week would have been unwise. You are better to enter into an active market.
Now we are down to the 4hr time frame. The white S/R line is here again for reference and also is a large box placed into an area where supply (sellers) are active. You can see the large effort to pull more and more short orders in order to get price down. The previously mentioned consolidation was the most likely reason for this price action.
Towards the end of the market you see the false move down and price closing above S/R. This means the time is not yet here for further bearish moves and a retracement is necessary. I highlighted with two white line places where pull backs into look good. There are sellers waiting in there.
The 1hr time frame wont be of much use at the moment because we do not have activity and I only put it on here to show how lower time frames begin to expand what looks cleaner on higher time frames. Note there are now three white lines showing places where sellers are waiting. Anyone one of those could be the point at which the market turns again, but you now know the turns happen in an area rather than a finite price.
The London close showed the most activity for the session and volume on a futures chart showed that play out. The slow drift up in the NY session was a non event and it never gained enough momentum to trade.
When you finally place a trade and we will assume for the moment that you only trade with a standard lot of one point per 10 dollars. Rather than risk the 10 dollars consider scaling in. Break your trade into .2 of a lot. Now your risk is 2 dollars per entry per point. Less to loose is the market turns of spikes etc.
If you got a good entry and price moves as you had watched it unfold, you can now get in again on a low time frame pull back and doing this a few times will get your full single lot trade in the market with a lot lower risk.
You can scale out on the same basis. Set a target on successive further away prices and move your stops accordingly. I will put up another post of realistic places for a day trader to use on the 1, 5 and 15min time frames.
Hello Doctor
ReplyDeleteIt is always a pleasure to read your stuff and I check your blog every morning during the week since you left forums.
Those 3 zones of sellers are pretty far from each others, covering an area of about 250 pips.
How do you manage entries and stops? You wait for candle closes in your direction at those zones and add positions? How to decide which timeframe close is significant to take the trade and which not? (Candle close is always been a confusing topic for me.)
Stop should be above the deepest zone for all positions?
If you got your entry signal at the nearest zone and then price after a while go through it, do you add to loser position at deeper zones then?
Thanks
Best Regards
Thanks for your wisdom, Doc. I dont hv specifi questions to ask, just let you know I'm still here, absorb and appreciate your teaching. It's over two years since your first post shows up.
ReplyDeleteThank you! If you need any support, please let me know.
Regards,
Blacky
I am also still a regular reader! Blacky, I also learnt from your posts, where you successfully applied Docs' way of trading. How is your trading going now, if I may ask?
ReplyDeleteI am profitable for several months now, mostly thanks to Docs teachings. Still much to learn, but I feel more confident than ever.
(Btw I'm Baltimore from the forums, posted only several times).
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Hi Baltimore, glad to see you here.
DeleteAfter countless screen time, finally I "get it", and hv achieved consistently profitable. When I say "consistently", it means make profits in most weeks. More importantly, no more guessing but reading price. It removes pressure and I become very calm (maybe bored) during trading.
Since follow the weekly trend and trade based on H4 S&D area, I usually hold positions for 2-3 days, which give me lots of free time to do other things.
KEY: Screen time is our best friend.
I'm very glad to hear that, you were already doing very well when you posted your trades in your thread.
DeleteIt might sound silly, but the most important thing I learnt from Doc (he also mentions it in this post) is that what ever you do, you got to take trades based on candle closes. It forces you, indeed, to read the price instead of guessing. I have taken that further: I also set my risk based on candle closes. The same story a candle (or a combination of candles) in a certain S&D area is telling you about opening a position, the same story it will tell that the trade is invalid and to get out of the trade.
This removed, like you mentioned, the pressure and the guessing game. The charts will tell me to open a trade and to close a trade. And with enough screen time, you see that the charts tell you the same story over and over again.
Hey Blacky, I too was a big follower of yours when you were on RTM and I'm glad to see that you are doing well in your trading. :) So, are you trading for a living now? Also, what is your average profit factor/ RRR, W/L ratio, and how many trades do you usually take a week. If you don't want to answer these questions publicly, then you can shoot me an email at howard.stocks.mitchell@gmail.com . Also, I know you had plans of starting a fund, how is that going? I'd love to hear back from you as success stories give me much needed encouragement and inspiration since my goal is to comfortably make a living from trading myself. I look forward to hearing back from you!
Deletethank you doc for all your wisdom on the net. i will be waiting to hear how you discern the lower tfs for entries. when you talk about a candle, or an area, can you mark the candle/area off on the chart so all can specifically see what you see and there be no misconception as to what you are referring to?
ReplyDeleteCosmos,
ReplyDeleteI use the 4hr and daily candle closes as my guide and of course the larger picture in my head after I have checked the weekly as well. Once I see a 4hr candle close into historic supply or demand, I want to see if there is going to be a reverse or continuation. The market likes to play tricks with the herd around these historic price areas as it gives them plenty cover together with news as a means of hiding their true intentions.
We know they cannot hide their intentions for very long and once the 4hr candle is closed you simply drop down to lower time frames and see how price action has formed. All lower time frame info is only taken as true fact once their candles have closed as well.
Lower time frames often will set up a range, and this can be long or short lived. A useful thing to look for is where in the range had clean and clear price movement happened. Ideally using futures volume will be a big help, but in forex the best we get is tick volume.
Time of day is a big factor for me and I trade mostly the London session. If a setup happens outside of the London session I will not take it. Most of the 5+ trillion dollars traded in a 24hr period is done so through London and it makes sense to trade where the majority of the market activity happens.
Stops are placed above or below a swing or range depending on the direction. Your stop value is a personal choice based on your available capital and risk appetite. Obvious retail stops are a poor place to be, go beyond those if you can afford it.
Trade size is often over looked and it needs to be a sensible size, too big will close and account quickly and too small wont make much money, but for new traders it is better to start small and prove your analysis and prove you have enough wins over 6 months or more before taking it live.
Blacky Z,
Good to hear from your again. My lack of posts here is just a reflection of the real world and not some web chit chat that people wont gain anything from. Hope your trading is growing and you along with it. Its boring when it works out and thats a sign you have it well thought out. With boredom comes winning trades.
aswilled1,
When I mark up the next chart I will put in some info for you to follow along. If you cant get it or nothing clicks, just post after the chart and I will try some other approach. We all learn at different paces and in different ways, so feel free to chime in any time.
Hi Doc
ReplyDeletewhen you say 4H close, you mean 4,8,12,16 GMT ?
What you consider London open to close time for forex market in GMT?
thank You Doc
London use GMT and all my timing is based on those candle closes on GMT too.
ReplyDeleteThank you Doctor.
DeleteYou mentioned in the forum that 11am and 3pm closed 4h candles are important so is it good to look at a GMT+1 broker MT4? I noticed you used to use GKFX which is GMT+1 are you still using it?
December is coming.. Can't wait for Doc Dec post. :-)
ReplyDeleteI wish I could post more, but sounding like a broken record is not me. I will take a look at some charts and see if there is something I can offer up. I know some longer term entries based on the 4hr and daily are a common request and I will get that question satisfied shortly.
ReplyDeleteI dont use GKFX for live trading. Many brokers use GMT+1 which can be a burden and means checking the candles against GMT. My last few charts are not with any specific broker and use Metastock raw data feed.
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